Be afraid. Be very afraid.
That being said, a visually STUNNING movie with amazing storylines. Very creative. Also scared the sh*t outta me.
Is it on DVD?
Hope - funny you should say that (about which twin runs better) becaus Abbie can cream Evie in a foot race - I mean, it's not even close, lol. Abbie was the first one to run.
Oh, and they didn't watch Pan's Labyrinth - I wouldn't allow that - way too violent. I tivo'd it, though, and I let them watch some of the monster scenes. They love the pale man scene (though I make them close their eyes when he eats the faeries).
Karrie - it's a great movie. A lot of people won't watch it because it's in spanish, but honestly, after a minute, you don't even perceieve the subtitles at all - it's weird - give it a try if you like fantasy movies - it's one of the best -a classic. It should be available at your local video store.
Here's the scene with the Pale Man (go back and watch Evie's imitaion and see how good her imitation really is :) - don't watch this if you are offended by a little grue:
http://josiahhenley.vodpod.com/video/97042-child-eating-pale -man-from-pans-labyrinth
They are too cute!!! Their speech is fabulous. They seem very engaged!
Anthony's gross motor skills are pretty good but for the longest time he only pumped one arm when he ran the other was held at his side, bent at the elbow, ready to pump - it just didn't.
Holy cow - they've seen Pan's Labyrinth? That movie gave ME nightmares. Just the thought of that thing that eats children makes me shiver. You've got some brave girls there. I would probably have gone into shock if I saw that movie as a kid
I haven't seen it yet, but it looks really good. Here's a link to the movie's web site. There you can read a synopsis of the film. You can also view the films movie trailer which is in English.
What movie is this??? I've not even heard of it..Is it good? WHat is it about? When was it released etc? Am I missing something?
Karrie
Jasper has the EXACT same gait. It may even be a little more pronounced.
They stand out noticably amongst their peers - that's when you really tell the difference. They cannot keep up with typical peers, girls included, though Abbie is much faster than Evie and closer to being able to keep up with the gang. They also get more dicombobulated the longer they run, so they weren't flying out too bad in the confines of the kitchen.
I remember the PT tried to get them to pump their arms when they run (it's a reflex - something they really shouldn't have to think about) and that just screwed them up more - they would thrust their arms forward at the same time rather than having them pump alternately - it was funny to watch. Abbie looks ok in the video, but you can see her pitch her head to the side, which is something she does (as well as bend over at the waist, at times). When Evie comes around the corner and runs at the camera, you can see her arms are just not knowing what to do - one grips her chest area and the other raises above her shoulder with the wrist limp, hand flapping - that happens often when the run - they're arms tend to fload about their shoulders and then back down again, all out of synch - it kind of looks like someone affecting the prancing run of a an effeminate person - almost comical! Bottom line is, though, that they don't care and it is evolving slowly and they are able to enjoy walks and hikes now, so it's nothing that I'm too concerned about - someone just wanted to see what it was.
I can't tell if it's an immature gait, an atypical gait, or both. I'm glad that they can run and have fun running around, no matter their speed and appearance, though :)
Wow...I thought it was a girl thing...My natural instinct is to run like that with my arms or hands kinda flapping in the wind so to speak. I never really thought about it but I have to make a concous effort to pump my arms. My playful running looks just like your girls. Because of this, in any girl I wouldn't have even thought it was odd. Not to mean that it should not be addressed because of course if you feel it does then it does. I'm just saying how I would not have even picked up on it because they are girls. How cute they are though fred. They are so smart and are doing very well.
Karrie
That was interesting to see. I guess I don't know how typical kids run at different ages--they didn't look that bad to me. One thing for sure, my almost 4 year old runs like a toddler. Arms in the air, wide base of gait. He just learned how to jump and clear both feet this summer. We have some work to do.Fred, they run exactly like my oldest son did during his first year in soccer. He was four. I distinctly remember because his older sister was mortified that her little brother ran like a duck. Sort of odd gait...and arms extended and flapping. He outgrew it by the time he was 6. He now plays various sport...and never runs like a duck.
Fred...they seem so full of life and happy. You are a lucky man.
That's not so far fetched, really. It is developmental delay, not developmental stasis, after all. As long as they are progressing forward, it stands to reason that, at six, they may blend in with the four year olds, at 10, with seven year olds, etc - until, maybe, at 23, they'll blend in with 18 year olds and be considered 'recovered' - I know, I have the same dream :). They are soo adorable Fred.
Someone asked me to post a video of the girl's running. They have an immature gait - they run like a typical 3.0-3.5 year old (or there abouts - they are just turned five a month ago), and their arms kind of hang there rather than 'pump'. Abigail's is more mature than Evie's, though - Abbie runs about twice as fast as Evie, literally. It's kind of hard to see in the limited space of my kitchen, but you can get a sense for it.
Evie busts out a crackin' "Pale Man" (from Pan's Labyrinth) imitation, too.

It's one of her characters - "Bucket (her name), the Pale Man" :)
They're doing more of this spontaneous goofy stuff since they started mainstream kindy, which is cool.
Anyway, here's the clip:
http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/batfish00/?action=vi ew¤t=M2U00068.flv
Couple of things ..
OMG their speech is PHENOMENAL! I love it love it love it! Too darn cute!
Seen the run before, in Nicholas. Pretty much exactly the same. Nick gets PT 2x a week as well as OT 2x, and has gotten special inserts for his shoes so that he can learn to walk the right way. (he was turning in his feet.)
Pans Labyrinth ... personally I LOVE that movie, but I haven't played it for my kids because I thought it would be way too scary (plus, the subtitles ...). Maybe I'll give it a shot. Love your daughter's impression.
Yeah, I won't let them watch the whole movie - just the scenes with the monsters (and in the PaleMan scene, I make them close their eyes when he eats the fairies!). The movie is way to brutal for little kids, imo - but it's one of the better movies I've seen in the past few years.
The girls were actually discharged from private PT this summer as the therapist felt that they would just continue to normalize with maturity. She just wanted us to keep them active. Their running has gotten much better, but the coordination problems are still obvious when they're with their peers (the blend in better with 3 year olds). For example, Evie, at 4.0, could not walk down a hiking trail. She would tip and stumble the whole way, get scared, and refuse to continue. Now, they'll both run down these same trails - they're awkward, but they run and they don't trip up, and Abbie actually moves along at a pretty good clip.
They are also much better at peddling their trikes - they can now go up inclines and go pretty fast. They do less well on two wheel bikes (with training wheels) - they like their "big wheels". I'm thinking of investing in a quality tricycle for bigger kids (one of the retro style metal things with rubber tires) because the big-wheel's hard, plastic tires spin out on the concrete which makes them difficult to go up hills with - and the girls are still a couple of years away from regular bike riding, I'd guess.
I'll bring it up with the neuro at their next appt (they have one coming up in a few weeks) - but, this might just be something that will improve over time, but they'll just never be particularly graceful or coordinated.
I say keep all the therapies going as much as you can. Get all you can, when you can, that's my motto! LOL!
It's funny that you mention blending in with 3 year olds, as that is exactly how I feel about my son. He is much more a 3 year old in every aspect. From speech, to behaviors, to how he walks, etc. I'm hoping he will (all of the sudden and magically LOL) catch up to a 5 year old overnight. I know, I know ... but I can dream ...
I would love to tape my ds running and put it up. But, due to security issues and my just being way too much of a computer idiot, I don't think it will happen.
That being said, when ds was 4 - I noticed that he didn't pump his arms when he ran. He could run pretty fast, but didn't pump his arms. The PT said she couldn't teach him to pump his arms - that was something he would have to figure it out himself. She may have been right - but soon after we switched to another facility to get PT. That PT didn't work on pumping his arms either, but she did lots of other things to help his balance and coordination. He pumps his arms now when he runs! I would say that his gait is a little awkward - his knees kind of go in a little (feet out at a slight angle) when he runs, but he definitely runs very fast. I can't catch him - which occasionally turns out to be a problem!
Thanks for posting this fred - I was the one who asked. We just got back into town and I'm catching up on posts. I've read a lot of people posting about an awkward gait when running and I've always wondered what it looks like. Because ds' isn't really off-kilter that much. I would say it is not noticeably different at this age. It might be at a later age, I don't know. But, I'm going to be looking a little closer now.
I think the girls' language is awesome! And it just might be that they do catch up on their own. However, if they aren't riding big bikes yet, you may want to take them back to PT. Maybe a different PT. Our old one said that she had gone as far as she could with ds - but the new one did a TON more with him. He has low muscle tone in his upper body - which significantly affected his ability to pedal and ride a bike. He is riding without training wheels now - and you should SEE him on his scooter! It's a two-wheeled razor and he even does tricks on it! I think that if your girls are still behind in gross motor skills - I would take them in to PT. Maybe it's not as important for girls - but I can tell you from personal experience (I now realize I had gross motor delays and balance/coordination issues) - it hurts your confidence! Just one more thing to think about it - but I know you have a TON of other stuff going on right now!
Sarah runs just like they do but now at 7 her arms are more down than up but you would pick her out of a crowd of kids running instantly. I think the gymnastics it helping her so much..they do so much jumping and rolling, swinging and stretching that she seems more in control of her body parts now;)
Sarah wont watch anything remotely scarey...even regular cartoons or movies are hard for her to sit through..she likes sing songy shows made for preschoolers..I think she would still watch teletubbies if I let her. She does better now but long shows get lost on her.
Thanks for sharing..I need to tape Sarah running~if I can get her motivated to...hmmm sherbert huh?? :P yummy!
Re Pans Labyrinth . .... fantastic movie. I hate movies with subtitles, but everyone encouraged me to see this, and I'm so glad I did. It was VERY good.